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As to the debate in the comment section below, I urge you all to read “What’s in a (Strain) Name?” where I cover my response to the debate.
51 Comments, Comment or Ping
Rodden
That is not Matanuska ThunderFuck. You will never see MTF and very few Alaskans have ever see this strand of Marijuana. It was said to have been lost during the late 1980’s when indoor growers were being targeted by law enforcement. I have heard dozens of people talking about Matanuska Thunder Fuck or Alaskan Thunder Fuck and none of these people have ever been to the state of Alaska. Most of the marijuana being grown in Alaska are strands from Canada that have been given new names. There is a lot of good weed in Alaska but none of it is Matanuska but you can call it whatever you want as long as it makes you feel better.
Jul 20th, 2007
The Scholar
MTF was originally a wild, naturally occuring plant in the Matanuska valley. As far as I know, no one has a real version of this left. There are some decendants, which are called Matanuska Tundra, but it’s not the pure wild strain. The wild version required at least one heavy frost to reach its maximum potential.
Jul 30th, 2007
Guru
Hey man, do the research, I smoked some MTF from Doc Greenthumb in Canada, fuckin off the chain, even if it’s not the real shit, it’s some fine ass shit
Aug 17th, 2007
Growinmyown
Hey Guru, bought many a seed from Doc G. Was always amazed at the things i grew with his beans.
I actually even won a photo contest Nov.2005. (Gren1) Got free seeds of kashmiri. Awesome weed. was sad to see the forum gone but noticed he added alot of new different strains. Thats what got me to here…. Matanuska Thunderfuck. just wonderin if you grew the stuff yourself or got straight from Doc? Don’t care if it’s the real thing, but if it’s good shit I’ll buy it
Aug 19th, 2007
Bust14u21
WTF are you assholes talking about? MTF is in clinics all throughout California, and the beans are availabe through Doc. Greenthumb Seeds for just over $250.00. Do your fuckin research next time cuz i dont recal any heavy frosts in southern Cali ever hapening and i imagine that it would be impossible to replicate in a growroom! FUCK HATERS!
Sep 5th, 2007
Bust14u21
And dont even bother saying that its not the real strain, because it is fraudulent to claim a bougus strain by law! Plus the seeds are purely bread from wild plants that show outstanding growth and resistance. Plus theres and added level of legitimacy because The Doc. is the only seed bank carrying the strain!
Sep 5th, 2007
zrwhat
LMFAO!
you guys need to sit back and smoke another bowl
xoxo
Sep 7th, 2007
pinkeyedjim
There actually is a good chance that the original strain called Matanuska Thunderfuck is now extinct. Same thing goes for purple haze…
That being said, I just call it what I’m told it is. It smoked wonderfully and got me ripped. If the original strain is in fact extinct, that’s sad.
But this was some good bud.
Sep 12th, 2007
Nasty Nate
Everyone from alaska knows that MTF has been gone for half a decade or more, i havent personally seen the stuff since 2000-2001, everyone in Matanuska got raided after 9/11 and MTF was no more, its pretty sad……and thats not MTF in the picture….
Sep 16th, 2007
stoned 24/7
hey yo listen i got this shit all the time. it is the real deal. try its the 9th generation and it is still kicking m lungs ass. aMTF is the real deal bitch ass rookie smokers.
stone
Sep 19th, 2007
jiuakasd
you just reuind my high asshole
Oct 23rd, 2007
countvoncount
Gotta agree w? pinkeye on this one! Last time I saw any was in the late 90’s from a green thumb outta Petersburg. All the busts, influence of seed banks and their wide varieties of genetics and the bastardization and the breeding out of pure stains certain characteristics i.e..; low yields, late flowering, frost resistance and other annoyances to commercial and cost conscious growers. There are only so many connoisseurs out there who kept a few of this strain on the side for personal amusement. We’re only a few “accidents” away from losing some great classic bud forever.
Oct 26th, 2007
l_luv2
i grew this back in 91 or 92 for a few harvests i was out in wasilla in 3 basements kickin’ back with some good bud and alot of time on my hands…….really happy days anyway been out of the scene for quite some time but i havent come by thunderfuck since!!!!!!!!!it would be a real shame if this strain is truly gone forever!!!!!!
Nov 13th, 2007
Beatnutz
I smoked some when I was living in the Boston area during the mid 90s and it was incredible smoke. I also smoked some of Doc Greenthumbs strain a few months back. Similar stuff but I’d give the stuff from the mid 90s a 6 out of 5 on the potency chart…off the chart. Greenthumb rates his own 4 1/2 out of 5 and and thats about right.
Dec 26th, 2007
Beatnutz
…also the buds in the mid 90’s looked nothing like those pictures. The color was a real light pale green with a slight purplish tint to it and was covered..and I mean covered in crystals. The buds were also very dense rock hard nugz.
Dec 26th, 2007
WA born, AK grown
Ya’ll need to do some damn research before you start running your mouths. MTF is still a live strain in the Matanuska valley and surrounding “hills”. I can personally vouch for this. i have seen it, smoked it, and know the man that has had this strain for over two decades. it is bomb ass weed. definitely the best i’ve heard of, hands down. beatnutz is right. it is pale green with many purple spots and a shitload of crystals. it is NOT dry and crumbly. thick and dense, solid nuggets. and as for this raid after 9/11 bullshit, do ya’ll honestly think that every single MTF plant could have possibly been confiscated? Bitch Please! whoever says that it is gone is a fucking idiot. ya’ll just need to sit back and keep puffin on that bammer shit that ya’ll get, and leave the real tokin’ to those of us who know.
Jan 10th, 2008
pinkeyedjim
WA Born…
I did do research. Had you read my “What’s in a Strain Name?” you might realize that. As for the color difference, purplish tint tends to happen to pot grown in colder climates (hence the Alaskan stuff being more purplish). Honestly if the real strain still is around, nothing could make me happier. But the simple fact is that we can’t know much about the actual strain itself as any grower or dealer can call their shit WHATEVER THEY WANT, your guy included. Who’s going to prove them wrong?
Jan 12th, 2008
steven lovelace
The year was 1993, I was a student at divers institute of tech. living in ballord wa. I met a girl that was a student at wa. st. u. She had acces to a lab on campos that was supposedly groing erb experimentally for medicinal use. She said the pot was called mtf. I got my hands on the girl and the pot, Both of witch I will never forget.
Mar 10th, 2008
sour deez nuts
you can obtain matanuska tundra in amsterdam. I know Grey Area has it. However, some refer to blueberry x matanuska = blue thunderfuck and it is one of the FINEST varieties i’ve ever tasted. bluish/purple hues & loaded down with trichomes. i prefer to call it “matabluska”, but whatever works for you. I don’t know the difference between thunderfuck & tundra, besides the name, if there’s a difference at all. Tundra’s an excellent variety. It’s also a great plant for hybrids & use indoors.
Apr 2nd, 2008
G-apollo-13
i think y’all are gettin way to heated for bein stoners. relax, sit back and smoke that bowl let dealers call it whatever the fuck they want as long it gets the job done.
Apr 10th, 2008
IV-XX
I have smoked a type of matanuska, and it matches the description that keeps coming up: a peculiar light green that caught my attention, heavy, large trichomes all the way to the leaf-tips, a mango-like aroma, and barely any taste at all. It was not dry in the least, but extraordinarily sticky and dense. Another peculiarity was that it was total creeper – I didn’t get high for 10 or 15 minutes. The grower called it thunderfuck, and I have NEVER smoked anything quite like it. I do not believe for an instant however, that the original mtf was a wild strain. It may have been back-crossed with a native frost-resistant variety many times, but any grower who is familiar with truly wild strains knows that this type of bud just does not emerge without human intervention. What we call mtf was probably developed and cultivated over the course of decades.
Apr 26th, 2008
IV-XX
And it is not unrealistic at all that the strain could have been lost. Since Matanuska (according to the old-schoolers who actually grew it) requires frost to reach full potential, it may have been an unpopular choice for indoor growers and those in southern regions, limiting its spread. Secondly, if the strain is native to Alaska, it probably does not react to the same light cycle as other plants, and this would further limit its popularity for growers who raise multiple strains. Strains from equatorial regions, for instance, do not pay any attention at all to a light cycle, but can bloom any time they feel they are ready to reproduce. Some strains rely on other environmental triggers such as drought. Strains come and go, and some have a different rate of genetic drift, meaning that some seed-bred strains may be significantly different from their descendants only a dozen generations past. Anyway, we will never know it the original mtf is still around. Is someone hands u a blunt and says it’s mtf, don’t worry about what’s what – just smoke and enjoy. Peace.
Apr 26th, 2008
Alaska
None of these people know what they are talking about. I don’t smoke weed, but my grandpa was the one who created the Matanuska Thinder Fuck strain in the late 1970’s. The strain is artificial, nothing could survive our winters, and stay green for the entire year, let alone grow wild throughout our fields. The strain was grown using hydro, and crossbred for over ten years to create the monster strain. The actual strain died with him a few years ago when he was shot to death. There is some closure for you guys.
Apr 28th, 2008
denver nug
It still exists. big blockheaded nugs with callyxes ten times the size of a normal callyx, white hairs all over the place, and more crystals than you have ever seen, like beatnutz said, pale green with a somewhat purple/bluish tint that shows up well in photographs. not a particularly huge yielder, but rock hard nuggs and thc oozing from every inch of her. (does especially well in cold weather). Thunderfuck is to Mother Nature as F-13 is to DJ short. puff tough everyone!
May 28th, 2008
hmmm
Alaska, your story intrigues me, but I would like to hear more as I would like to disbelieve what you’ve written. If the real thunderfuck is infact extinct, then there is something much closer to it and much headier than the matanuska tundra that is circulating in many US states. Would you be willing to tell us more about your Grandpa and how/why he was shot? I hope that in all of his more than ten years of crossbreeding he took one snippet at cloning and passing along his hard work to ensure MTF’s survival. common sense dictates this. please tell me your grandpa was not a strain hoarder and someone still has this, and if the legacy died with one man way back in the 1970’s, what is there still so much hubbub about the matter. do you think it is possible he may have had one or two hermaphedites over the years that made it to the market where seeds could be regenerated? whatever this shit is, if your grandpa did cross it, i am sending him good vibes and much thanks from the rocky mountains.
May 28th, 2008
anna
haha
i hope other people are finding this as intriguing as i am…
good high reading material
May 31st, 2008
free
You all are pretty funny. I am from alaska and have seen dozens of morons trying to pawn off dozens of strains as MTF. Only the original growers could possibly know what to look for. Just enjoy your weed. If it is good enough to ask the question “could this be MTF?” then you are high enough that it does not matter.
Jun 28th, 2008
AK907
I live in Alaska and everyone I have ever know has said that the strain is lost. Ever since a company named Wolf country USA was busted the strain was lost. This is why I am wondering if Dr. Greenthumbs is BS.
Aug 15th, 2008
AK kid
Wow I miss that stuff. I grew up in AK and the last time I had some MTF was in the mid to late 90s. I believe it was from a guy in the Palmer area and he did grow it indoors or so I was told; of course he probably was venting cold air in from outside to get that kind of resin production and rock hard buds. The buds were rock hard…seriously hard, and the high, there was nothing like it. I’ve since traveled the world looking for something similar and nothing compares. In fact weed elsewhere in the world has been disappointing Jamaica, Netherlands, British Columbia, Hawaii (have found some tasty stuff in Hawaii though). The closest I’ve came in a similar high feeling is the S.A.G.E I got at the greenhouse effect in Amsterdam. Only you have to smoke a lot more S.A.G.E. than you would have MTF. With MTF I’d come home take a couple hits off a joint or out of my little bong, or steamroller and put it out. If you took more you might end up hanging onto the floor even if you were a seasoned smoker. I said the S.A.G.E. high was similar in how it made me feel but it took a whole big dutch cone to get there and I didn’t get the visual hallucinations I got with the MTF high. God I su
Aug 24th, 2008
AK kid
continued from last cut off post…God I sure hope someone has preserved those genetics. I called my brother a few years back whom is an Alaskan grower like myself (I however am currently living and working outside the US) and asked if he could find me a clone. He said what some of the others are saying here…he wasn’t sure that it still existed; he hadn’t seen the stuff around in quite a while. I plan on ordering Dr. G’s beans and seeing what grows out but I admit I’m skeptical. I’ll keep searching. It’s a great Love lost, but if she’s out there I hope to find her again….or at least come up with something similar by selective breeding of what I do find. When I do, I hope to share it with the world. We can’t take the chance on losing genetics like those again. Peace people.
Aug 24th, 2008
DoobieDirk
Back in the late 80’s an electrician friend of mine did some work in Alaska for about 4 months or so. (doing wiring at new McDonald’s restaraunts as I recall) Anyway he brought home a quarter of MTF that he picked up right before he came home. I’ve been smoking for about 27 yrs (40 now) and it was the definitely a 1 hit wonder. From what I know of the area, any strain would be good there, it has a very short, but very intense growing season…it’s a climatic wonder of the arctic growing seasons.
Sep 5th, 2008
derek johnson
totally fake
Sep 9th, 2008
SteveyyyNN
Well, Thats not MTF I live in Anchorage alaska and I knew the guy with the last crop in anchorage and that was burned down by the cops 7 years ago
Nov 23rd, 2008
AK yum yum
SOOOOOO… The truth about MTF/ATF is it is extinct…. There are no original strands left… They havent been around for a couple decades… I’ve been around for many many many years and seen TONS of the AK strands, and frost and blueberry are trying to be passed off as MTF/ATF. As one who has had it before can tell you that the trash that is being passed off as the once great strand is sad and you all need to settle down and just accept that the Queen is dead, and trust me it will be ok.
Jan 23rd, 2009
John Jacobs
Could someone out there send me a line on how to cultivate MTF indoor.
Mar 4th, 2009
The Real McCoy
Well,
think what you want have the real MTF been cloning it since 1980 the only problem is that it has lost its potency over the years…still good but not th kickass it once was. The MTF that DocG sells is awesome but that is sativa dominant the original was Indica dominant actually needed a frost to bring out full potency.
I have been busted ,so I don’t grow anymore or keep the clone here.If your interested I have pics of my last 10lb crop.I call it my field of dreams
Mar 13th, 2009
Patrick
Does anyone know the real website to dr. greenthumb..Just curious, I have never purchased seeds from a seedbank before, but I want to try to grow some this year.
Mar 20th, 2009
Woody
Alaskan here,
I would suggest folk’s research the term “Pheno type”.
Here’s my story. Came to AK in the 80’s, worked like a slave in the bush for 29 years now. First bud I ever smoked in AK was MTF. Man we all knew as “Doo man” kept it real quite that he grew it. He too claimed it be the best in the world. We all just figured he was a good salesman and knew what to say. Yes it was out doors most of the time, some years it would flower outdoors some years it would have to be brought in. I remember years he would say it all seeded. Ill never know why it did, but I can tell you this, it was the only time I had ever gotten seeds that only made females. The man is dead now and he burned down his place before he killed himself. Sad loss. Ill never tell anyone where, but its still got family out here in the bush. Maybe the “original” is dead who knows. But I can tell you this….The green in the window looks just like the picture I took in 1983!
Clue For You Who Knew The Doo: He cut trees for his last dollars, but the last trees were left by the Bay. His babies were “stolen” but did not make it far away.
Woody
May 12th, 2009
FatAlaskaGuy
Hey I live in Alaska about 7 miles from the matanuska valley and there is some left it is hard to find but it’s out there last weekend I smoked about 5 bowls of 3rd generation of MTF and it was amazing. I smoked a bowl of 1st gen MTF and it made me halucinate. No it is not in california that is Matanuska Tundra a totally different strain. if your lucky enough to find some savour it and enjoy it the taste is so pure and strong it is amazing.
May 15th, 2009
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May 18th, 2009
jeff russell
i was stationed at ft. rich in the early 80s and the mtf we got then was fuckin awesome i went back to alaska in 2007 and the smoke i got then had none of the same look no purple and very few crystals
May 31st, 2009
jeff russell
when i die bury me deep and plant some pot above my feet put some papers in my hand and i will smoke my way to the promise land alaska rocks but im stuck in texas
May 31st, 2009
truefuckinalaskan
Look MTS is real i know for a fact cuz A. i have smoked it
Jul 6th, 2009
Brizzz
From what I know, its been gone for 10 or more years. The most important thing besides the strain is the location its grown in, hence the name matanuska. This was a key factor in its beauty, so any remnant of the strain you get will not compare. The legendary stuff was a true 1 hitter quitter, nothing out there now is quite the same.
Jul 20th, 2009
mark
It is real. Dr. Greenthumb gets or got his beans from a man in the yellow river valley who has been cultivating it for years. The deal was when the Dr. perfected his bubba kush beans they made the trade. Original thunderfuck is a sativa dominant that is grown in greenhouses. Check out Jason Kings cannabible #1. His only misinformation is that it is clone only. Call or ask the Dr. and he will give you the whole story, it is his most consistantly high priced strain and is totally worth the money,believe me.
Sep 20th, 2009
mtf
the MTF is still found around the matanuska valley.
bascially what it breaks down to is, the mtf strain was dubbed that after the grower responsible for it did an interview with hightimes, who were covering alaskas legalization. up until that interview the strain was called thunderfuck mainly, my hippy aunt told me they used to call it “guedo” as well.
the area had become more and more known as a pot destination and the federal government didn’t like that the state government was so lax. the feds pulled a lot of funding for roads, schools, etc so the alaska dea decided to start cracking down hard on the grow ops, more so targetting the mtf. the hells angels were then given the strain to take underground, which is mainly where it is today. i do know the russian mafia up in fairbanks has the strain as well and they’ve had a little bloodshed with the h.a. boys over it.
but yes.. the mtf strain is still around, it will you more then the norm of course even in matanuska valley. that is if you can’t get a clone of it and raise your own crop.
peace from lazy mountain. palmer – alaska
Sep 23rd, 2009
Puffman
My bro from alaska /Wasilla? and I smoke this MTF every thanksgivivg
In good old B.C. Oregon It is 1hit shit but its never just one hit,Its a creper
weed and it has changed over the years some but every thing dose.
I have some in my freezer for some time now that has been packaged
well come to Oregon and try some…. Puffman
Oct 18th, 2009
crispairupthere
I also understand that the O.G. MTF has not been seen in many years. I do know however that ATF or Alaskan Thunder Fuck is all over up here in Nor Cal. I think its very similar to MTF and that is where it got his name. I keep two under the thouy for my head, and Blue Dream for everyone else’s. I know my ATF is many gens. deep, and the wellness centers in the boldt stays consistant to mine. All I know is if you havent yet, then you need to… get chya some!!!
Nov 7th, 2009
JIm1993AK
I don’t live in AK anymore, but in ‘93 I had my first taste of MTF when I was hiking Hatcher Pass in the July. I had just reached the first summit opposite the lodge. There was a large ice pond melting in the sun and some large boulders to hang out on. We lit up and within seconds of my first hit I was weak at the knees. I nearly feel over and spent the next few minutes trying to gain my balance. Whew. Man, it always made me feel good when I would be in the presence of someone who was having MTF for the first time. I guess that’s why this memory is so vivid. I hope it is still out there and growing.
Nov 19th, 2009
G man
Take it from me. I’ve lived in Alaska for 30 years. Thunderfuck was an outdoor strain grown in makshift greenhouse frames that were blacked out with black plastic because the summers had 20+ hours of sunlight. Any dumbass should know you can’t bud with that much light unless it’s auto flower. The frost comes to early to finish a crop outside without using a blackout method. My father and grandfather used to grow it and have us kids out there pruning and watering. It was leagle back then but just a few plants. The cops got smart and started flying around and seeing these blacked out greenhouses and busting them. That’s when we started going indoors. The strain was lost to the more domiant and shorter indica strains. And indica crosses. The MTF strain is not native to Alaska. Whoever said that is a moron. The season is not long enough to produce seeds.
Dec 24th, 2009
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